This is a somewhat chaotic conversation involving Kyle Thiermann (big wave surfer), Mark Healey (surfing legend), Ben Greenfield (fitness guru), and a little bit of me (flabby imposter). It was recorded on the island of Molokai, Hawaii, at the end of a week-long hunting trip. (This conversation is being co-released by Kyle and Ben on their podcasts.)
To listen to this episode, plus get access to bonus content including bonus episodes, newsletters, and exclusive blog posts, please head over to Substack.
This episode is sponsored by Mud/Wtr, and Santa Cruz Medicinals. (Discount code: CHRIS5)
Find me on Instagram or Twitter.
Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Canto para Elewa y Changó,” by Orishas; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.
