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419 – Winston Sterzel & Matthew Tye (China YouTubers)

By May 10, 2020May 13th, 20209 Comments

Matt and Winston lived in China for years, learning to speak the language, love the people, and distrust the government. Their insights are surprising and fascinating.

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  • LilaJean says:

    Thanks so much for a great conversation. Just a reminder that Western domination of China goes ‘way back. And I’m thinking of before the Boxer Rebellion to the Taiping Rebellion of the 1850’s.

  • Kyle Peter says:

    So glad to see these guys on your podcast. They need exposure because they’re messages and knowledge is powerful right now. People need to hear this stuff.

  • Karl-K says:

    This was very interesting. Wish it could have been longer!

  • VilleR says:

    Long-time follower of both SerpentZA & C-Milk. Great to see these gentlemen get more exposure, they are always making good content and they deserve the attention (and more) they are getting for sure. Good job Christopher, always great conversation.

  • Great conversation that let us have a brief glimpse of the real China, instead of the distorted perspective we get beyond the Great (Fire)Wall.

    I was still in High school when the Tiananmen massacre happened in 1989. The image of that lone defiant man standing all alone before a line of armored tanks is burned within my psyche. Back in those days I was naive enough to think that some day a true democratic movement would arise in China, but 30+ years later that day seems as unlikely as the reunification of the two Koreas.

    But hey, the fall of the Berlin wall two years later proves even the unlikely CAN happen…

  • Ted Greon says:

    I’m just wondering how fkn lazy you must be to have these 2 on your lowly rated podcast before doing research on your guests?

    Had you done your research, you would have found your answer as to why 1000’s upon 1000’s of people have a deep hatred for these 2 lowlife degenerate scumbags……you would have found…..
    1) both are alcoholic degenerates

    2) both are closet racists.

    3) both are compulsive liars. I assure you that up to 95% of what they state is simply not true.

    4) they both ran from China just before they were about to be rightfully arrested.

    5) Winston married a Hong Kong woman just to get status and then quickly divorced.

    6) He did the same in China.

    7) Winston pretended to be a highly qualified medical professional teaching doctors in hospitals on how to use various equipment. It was later found out that he was a lowly english teacher teaching how to order food in a restaurant.

    8) Winston had an anchor baby in the USA because that was the only way that he could gain status in said country.

    These 2 people are very bad people with little morals or principles. They would sell their mothers into slavery for a buck.

    There is plenty online to back these items up. One video in particular showing Tye ridiculing the slant eyes of the chinese begging to have an american woman. Google is your friend.

    Do your research next time and just maybe I won’t think of you as a lazy moron.

  • Kevin says:

    I recommend looking into Daniel Dumbrill for another perspective.
    As our own western democracies crumble (see Trump, fixing of Democratic primaries, deep corruption, corporate media bias) I feel like we are getting a taste of what other countries have experienced when they lost their country at the hands of CIA-backed coups or direct US military invasions. I try to remind myself, as I figure out what is happening in China, that their revolution didn’t happen in a vacuum and the US has wanted to put an end to China’s revolution since the beginning. China’s evolution has been out of necessity. If we really want to help democracy in China, then we should reform our own governments to be less hegemonic.
    Also, Dave Rubin and Candace Owens are a thing. I am not saying Winston and Matthew are sucking Koch, but plenty are in the youtubsphere. There are certain interests that are lucrative to defend and certain interests that are lucrative to discredit. If you lived in China and want to make content exposing it, there is no shortage of funding.

  • Ernesto Estrada says:

    I’m sorry but these two aren’t a reliable source. And I’m quite surprised you invited them to your forum. They lie a LOT and try their best at painting China in the worst possible light. China is still a developing country and naturally it still has many challenges, but you can’t look at those in isolation to the tremendous progress made in virtually all fronts (economy, social, technology, etc). One year in China can bring about as many as 5 or 10 years of change elsewhere. I’ve been to China many times for roughly 10 years now, and every time is just more advanced. I am also married to a Chinese and I can tell you that the view these two bloggers and their family have are not the norm. You don’t have to trust me, the Harvard University Kennedy School of government recently published a study in which ~90% of Chinese support their government. If you can’t trust Harvard, I don’t know what to do for you. It just shows you that results are being delivered whereas for us in the West our societies and our democracies are losing dynamism. I think we ought to look in the mirror before just castigating China, let them deal with their own issues, we have even bigger ones at home.

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