Tangentially Speaking

Organic, revealing conversation with fascinating, freaky folks.
Ever wanted to hang with a dominatrix, comedian, famous health guru, or Italian prince? Here's your chance. Tangentially Speaking is dedicated to the idea that good conversation is organic, revelatory, and free to go down unexpected paths.

264 - Kabui (Sparkroot Farm)


Kabui was born and raised in Kenya. He came to the US to study, and has been based in North Carolina ever since. He's a medical anthropologist, chef, and food activist working to bring the wisdom of an African village into contemporary American dialogue. Download.

Music: "The Maker," by Daniel Lanois

263 - Stanley Krippner

Stanley Krippner is one of the most interesting, funny, kind-hearted men I know. We chatted in his room at the Oakland Marriott about channeling spirits, altered states of consciousness, life after death, and the importance of a good breakfast. Download.

Music: "Forest," by David Beckingham.

260 - Toby Thiermann (Film-maker)

Toby is continuing a family legacy of film-making. He's a cinematographer, director, whatever it takes. He's been traveling the world with a camera for over 15 years searching for the perfect frames and images. His adventures have brought him from Steven Spielberg sets to Cambodian mine fields to the North Pole. Check out his work at Lensfire Films. Download this episode.

Music: "It's Going Down," by Blackalicious.

259 - Chris D'Elia (Comic, Actor)

Chris D'Elia is an American stand-up comedian, actor, presenter, writer, and comedy singer. He is known for playing Alex Miller on the NBC sitcom Whitney and for the role of Danny Burton on the sitcom Undateable, also on NBC. He broke the condom the first two times he had sex. Download this episode

Music: "Rock the Nation," by Spearhead.

256 - ROMA 21

Special 4th of July episode. Kink among hunter-gatherers and other pressing issues are discussed with great urgency. Music: "Summertime," by Fort Francis. Download.

254 - Debra Berger

When Debra was 17, she fell in love with a 47 year-old Italian prince who was known throughout Europe for his creatively bohemian lifestyle. They had two sons together, one of whom is my friend Tao Ruspoli (episodes 3 and 115). Debra was generous in sharing some of her incredible life story with me -- but more importantly, in sharing her wise, unpretentious approach to a life that's rich in pretty much every way possible. Download this episode. (Music: "Mother and Child Reunion," by Paul Simon).

 With Prince Dado Ruspoli.

With Prince Dado Ruspoli.

252 - Don Mirra (Photographer/Adventurer)

Don is one of the most well-traveled, thoughtful, talented men I've met in a long time. Join us for a few beers as we talk about his time in the Marines, what it's like to sleep on a cot hanging thousands of feet above the ground, the plight of orphans around the world, and the challenges of photographing beautiful women. Download this episode.

Link to Don's book, The Reluctant Muse. (Use the code "tangent" to get 25% off.)

Music: "Assouf," by Tinariwen.

250 - Tom White

 Tom and his daughter, Ariel.

Tom and his daughter, Ariel.

Tom is the father of a friend of mine. After chatting with him for a few minutes, I asked if he'd share a bit of his life story on the podcast. I'm glad he did. He's living a life of adventure and depth, as you'll hear. Download this episode. Music: "Lovin is Easy," by Carsie Blanton.

 This is the festival I'm planning to attend.

This is the festival I'm planning to attend.

248 - Hunter Maats

Hunter has a beef with Sam Harris. In addition, he is an author, podcast host, and a very smart guy who has lived all over the world. He's dedicated to clear, critical thinking. We don't agree on everything, but our disagreements are fruitful. I always learn a lot in conversation with this guy. Here's the article we discuss, about ESP and whether "science is broken." Download this episode.

Music: "Wichita Lineman is a Song I Once Heard," by The KLF (Chill Out).