Tangentially Speaking

Organic, revealing conversation with fascinating, freaky folks.
Ever wanted to hang with a dominatrix, comedian, famous health guru, or Italian prince? Here's your chance. Tangentially Speaking is dedicated to the idea that good conversation is organic, revelatory, and free to go down unexpected paths.

193 - ROMA 6

I consider the difference between appreciating something and wanting it, porn addiction, the importance of constructive crashing and burning in one's love life, and serve up a large dollop of troll chow. Download.

192 - Uncle Dan

That Dos Equis guy's role model must have been my uncle Dan. Has Mr. Dos Equis ever delivered babies? Has he piloted several types of planes all over North America? Has he been rolling in money and then seen it rolling away? Does he effortlessly charm women 30 years younger than him without so much as a hint of creepiness while laughing about two types of cancer and serious nerve damage from a motorcycle accident? Go on, Mr. Dos Equis, have another drink and listen to my uncle Dan's story. Download.

Music: "A Good American Life" and "Flag," by Ed Dupas.

191 - Charles (Former Drug Smuggler)

What began with a shrimp boat to Colombia in the late 70s grew into a major drug smuggling operation using a fleet of military transport planes over the next decade before it all came crashing down. Charles kindly agreed to share his extraordinary story with us. Download.

Music: "Waiting in Vain," from Dreams of Freedom by Bob Marley and Bill Laswell.

190 - ROMA 5

Listener emails, including a Homeric epic rendering of episode 99 (Justin de Ruyter's brush with death on the Deschutes), thoughts on intergenerational relationships, how to escape the rat race, and advice for someone else's kid. Download.

Music: "Rock the Nation," by Michael Franti and Spearhead. Various snippets of Lambchop, and "Grumpus."

189 - Pree Kastelic (Appalachian Trail)

Pree spent six months on the Appalachian Trail, searching for organic time and hoping to avoid becoming the kind of person who spends their life wishing they'd taken the time to take some time for themselves. You can follow her on Instagram at @preeconceptions. This conversation was recorded just 20 days after she'd returned to "the real world," or its opposite. Download this episode.

Music: "Sailor Song," by The Blind Owl Band. "Guaranteed," by Eddie Vedder.

188 - Tom Spanbauer (Dangerous Writer)

Photo: Michael Sage Ricci

Photo: Michael Sage Ricci

Tom Spanbauer is the critically acclaimed author and founder of Dangerous Writing. As a writer he has explored issues of race, of sexual identity, of how we make a family for ourselves in order to surmount the limitations of the families into which we are born. His five  published novels Faraway Places, The Man Who Fell In Love With The Moon, In The City Of Shy Hunters, Now Is The Hour, and I Loved You More (Hawthorne Books, April 2014), are notable for their combination of a fresh and lyrical prose style with solid storytelling (text and photo shamelessly lifted from Tom's site). Download this episode.

Music: "I Wish I Was a Cowboy," by S.E. Rogie

185 - ROMA 3

I respond to two listener emails in this one:

1. How to handle old friendships gone sour.

2. How did/do hunter-gatherers treat people with disabilities?

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