Tangentially Speaking

Organic, revealing conversation with fascinating, freaky folks.
Ever wanted to hang with a dominatrix, comedian, famous health guru, or Italian prince? Here's your chance. Tangentially Speaking is dedicated to the idea that good conversation is organic, revelatory, and free to go down unexpected paths.

222 - A. J. Leon (Misfit)

A screen grab from AJ's Instagram feed.

A screen grab from AJ's Instagram feed.

A.J. walked away from a corner office on Wall Street because he realized that his life was inauthentic. Since then, he's been on a roll. He founded Misfit—one of the most enigmatic, admirable hunter-gatherer enterprises around. His life is full of travel, love, passion, and positive energy. Plus, he's brilliant, good-looking, quotes Shakespeare from memory, and dances like a Cuban. Fuck that guy. Download.

Music: "Distinto," by Orishas; "Lekela Muadi," by Tshala Muana.

217 - ROMA 11

Listener's emails, mostly of the should-I-stay-or-should-I-go variety. The exquisite pain of young love. Download.

"Fuck McDonalds and Taco Bell," by Afroman.

The funniest bit of Frans de Waal's TED talk that I mention, with the cucumber and grapes.

215 - Georgina Haig (Actress)

I met Georgina on a plane. Long before the seatbelt sign had gone off, I knew I was going to enjoy chatting with her all the way to LA. Getting to know this smart, funny, candid, and quirky woman, the hours flew by. She agreed she'd appear on my podcast a few weeks down the road--once she'd finished shooting a film. I doubted she'd get around to it, but true to her word, she found some time for this wide-ranging conversation about fame, beauty, Hollywood, Australia, and what it's like to make a living pretending to be someone else.

(Conversation begins at minute 15.)

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Music: "Maggot Brain," by Funkadelic; "Down Under," by Colin Hay.

214 - Wade Davis (Author, Ethnobotanist, Explorer, Photographer)

Photo: http://www.daviswade.com/

Photo: http://www.daviswade.com/

One River
By Wade Davis

Wade Davis is an extraordinary man. Follow this link to his full bio, which is pretty mind-blowing. Despite all his titles, awards, and other accolades, you'll hear that he's a very approachable guy who's having a blast living his life. Poetry seems to flow naturally from Wade's mind without effort or artifice.

I recommend all of his books, but One River and The Wayfarers are two of my favorites. The Lost Amazon is sort of a companion book to One River, featuring photographs Richard Evans Schultes took on his expeditions to the Amazon between 1941 and 1953. It's an incredible document.

Among other things, we chat a lot about our mutual friend Andrew Weil. Here's my conversation with Andrew.

Music: "The Message," by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.

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(Interview begins at minute 34.)