Tangentially Speaking

Organic, revealing conversation with fascinating, freaky folks.
Ever wanted to hang with a dominatrix, comedian, famous health guru, or Italian prince? Here's your chance. Tangentially Speaking is dedicated to the idea that good conversation is organic, revelatory, and free to go down unexpected paths.

378 - John Harrison (Therapist / Former Fugitive from Injustice)

John Harrison has had life experiences ranging from high-altitude mountaineer, to wilderness guide and group leader, tennis junkie, massage therapist, a former resident of Esalen Institute in Big Sur, CA, two plus years as a Federal fugitive (from injustice), followed by a two and a half year stint as a guest of the US Federal government’s Bureau of Prisons. Dude’s been around.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Down Under,” by Colin Hay; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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377 - Charles Eisenstein (Author/Philosopher)

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Charles is a public intellectual, speaker, and the author of five books, including Climate: A New Story, Sacred Economics, and The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Don’t You Miss Me,” by Seamus Og; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

376 - On the Big Island with Kyle Thiermann and Simon Rex

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We recorded this one during a pig hunting trip. Our conversation ranges far and wide, to put it mildly. Check out Simon's podcast, Nervous Rex, and The Kyle Thiermann Show.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Waiting for My Real Life to Begin,” by Colin Hay; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

375 - Chris Paine (Filmmaker/Environmentalist)

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Chris Paine is an American filmmaker and environmental activist. His notable works as director include the documentaries Who Killed the Electric Car? Revenge of the Electric Car and Do You Trust This Computer? Paine received a nomination for the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Documentary Screenplay for Who Killed the Electric Car?

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Fences,” by Chris Frisina; "Canzoni d'Amore," by Neil Sorsby; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

374 - Daniele Bolelli (Badass Historian)

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Daniele Bolelli is a writer, martial artist, university professor, and podcaster. He was born in Italy and currently lives in Los Angeles.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “If 6 was 9,” by Axiom Funk; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

373 - James Ostrer (Artist/Lunatic)

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James Ostrer has been known to dress himself in the flayed flesh of pigs and take self-portraits as a commentary on, what? How we're all encased in the suffering of other animals? How humans are both sacred and just meat? How "art" is both absurd and utterly serious? I don't know, but James's work is never boring or pretentious, always provocative and thoughtful.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Water from the Sky,” by Elena B. Williams; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

Instagram: @jamesostrer

Instagram: @jamesostrer

372 - ROMA 32

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In which I call out Gandhi, question the narrative of a recent Hollywood sex scandal, share some thoughts on hunting, and discuss my fear of becoming a douchebag guru.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Desert Land,” by Elena B. Williams; “El Jardin,” by Hermanos Guitierrez; “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress,” by Charlie Haden and Pat Metheny; “Rio Amazonas,” by Øystein Sevåg.

369 - Shane Heath (Mudslinger)

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Shane wasn’t mad at coffee, he was disappointed. He was sold the dream that coffee would allow him to do more and do it faster. But, he noticed that he was reliant on it just to get to baseline. The jitters, the anxiety, shitty sleep. He loved the ritual, but questioned whether it was helping or hindering his mental and physical performance. So he created Mud.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “When We Grew Older,” by Chris Vince; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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368 - Philip van Wyck (Missionary/Sea Gypsies)

Philip is a South African Christian missionary working with the Moken people (aka Sea Gypsies) on the island of Ko Phayam, in Thailand. When the tsunami in 2004 destroyed their boats, they were forced to live on land. Philip is trying to help them make the transition to a new way of life. He sees his role as striving to be the embodiment of God's love, not as trying to convince anyone to adopt his particular beliefs.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Life Upside Down,” by Brett Newski; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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367 - ROMA 31

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Are vaccines dangerous? Is meat important? If so, why? Does love always have to hurt? What are the dangers of humility? Can people and animals sense your vibe when you're tripping? These and other pressing issues are featured in yet another ROMA episode.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Humans From Earth,” by T-Bone Burnett; “Billie Jean,” covered by Chris Cornell; “El Mar,” by Hermanos Gutierrez; “Friends are Lost,” by Mike Howe.

366 - Carsie Blanton (Singer/Songwriter/Troublemaker)

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Nobody writes songs like Carsie. They come from straight from her heart, her head, or her ... shall we say, genital chakra. No filters. No shame. No prepackaged commercial nonsense. She's unabashedly political, sexual, and animal. She's one of my favorite Homo sapiens.

The essay I mention by Paul Graham is here.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Jacket” and "To Be Known” by Carsie Blanton.

Kyle's episode with Brenden Ruh of SC Medicinals.

362 - Tony Perrrottet (Cuba Libre)

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Tony is an old friend of mine and the author of several books of sexy history: Napoleon's Penis, The Naked Olympics, and most recently, Cuba Libre -- a book that reads like an adventure novel, but is the juicy true story of the Cuban revolution. If you have any interest in Cuban history, political revolution, or hot Latin sex, you'll dig this conversation and Tony's book. If you don’t, what the hell is wrong with you?

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Do You Want My Job?,” by Little Village; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

361 - Johann Hari (Author: Chasing the Scream)

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Johann is a journalist, columnist, and the author of Chasing the Scream: The First and Last Days of the War on Drugs, and Lost Connections. His TED talk on addiction has been seen over 9 million times. His mind goes a mile a minute, so strap in for this one!

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Minor Swing: For Django,” by Children of the Revolution; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.



360 - Greg Lansky (Porn Mogul)

Greg knew he wasn't going to make it in the normal world. He craved the disapproval of hypocrites and scolds. He wanted to be an outlaw, but didn't want to risk getting shot or put in a cage. And he liked sex. So he fought his way to the top of the adult entertainment industry by being smarter, working harder, and betting it all on himself.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Nouveau Western” by MC Solaar; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.