Tangentially Speaking

Organic, revealing conversation with fascinating, freaky folks.
Ever wanted to hang with a dominatrix, comedian, famous health guru, or Italian prince? Here's your chance. Tangentially Speaking is dedicated to the idea that good conversation is organic, revelatory, and free to go down unexpected paths.

384 - Michael Ellis (Naturalist & Travel Guide)

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Michael Ellis has been around. His goal in life has been to excite and educate people about the rhythms of the natural world and biological processes, thereby stimulating an active participation in the protection of the valuable resources of the planet. By acting as a communication bridge between academicians and interested but untrained individuals he hopes to make the world of science less threatening but still wondrous. (Shamelessly lifted from Footloose Forays)

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Nothing Turns My Lock,” by Kate Vargas; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

383 - Astrid Daley (Escaped Abusive Relationship)

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Astrid honored me by sharing a story that is both profoundly personal and, in some ways, not terribly uncommon. If you’ve ever felt that a relationship (or partner) was absorbing you into an alternate reality, this conversation will speak to you.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “101 (The Good Stuff),” by Knowmads; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

382 - Seane Corn (No BS Yoga Teacher)

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SEANE CORN is an internationally acclaimed yoga teacher and public speaker known for her social activism, impassioned style of teaching, and raw, honest and inspired self-expression.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Rise the Moon,” by Kate Vargas; "A Good American Life," by Ed Dupas; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

381 - Mickey Avalon (Glam-Rapper)

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There’s nobody quite like Mickey Avalon. His perspectives on art, music, fame, performance … are unique, thoughtful, and always sincere. He’s on tour with our mutual friend, Dirt Nasty (Simon Rex) this summer, so go see them if you get a chance. Their show is some strange and wonderful mix of comedy, rap, rock, and raunch.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Fuzzy Freaky,” by David Byrne; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.


380 - Hunter Maats (Metacognitivist)

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Hunter likes to think about how we think. And he's plenty good at it. 

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

379 - Leigh Ann Orsi (Former Actress/Pole Dancer)

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From Leigh Ann’s Instagram.

Leigh Ann Orsi is an American dancer and former actress. She is best known for playing Brad's second girlfriend, Ashley, on the sitcom Home Improvement. Also featured as Hannah in the 1994 film, The Favor starring Brad Pitt. She's currently trying to get Facebook to allow ads for pole dancing as exercise.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Slip Sliding Away,” by Paul Simon; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

378 - John Harrison (Therapist / Former Fugitive from Injustice)

John Harrison has enjoyed much of his time on the planet exploring both the inner and outer landscapes. A therapist with a practice based in San Diego specializing in Addiction Treatment and Personal Transformation, John was Principal Investigator for MAPS’ (Multidisciplinary Assn. for Psychedelic Studies) pilot study investigating the efficacy of the plant medicine ibogaine in the treatment of opiate addiction. John studied and was trained in Clinical Psychology at the California Institute for Integral Studies, and was formerly a resident at Esalen Institute in Big Sur, Ca. A Zen Buddhist practitioner for over 30 years, John is the founder of Blue Dragon Zen Community in San Diego. An avid hiker and high altitude mountaineer, John is also a connoisseur of amazing and breath-giving sunsets!

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Down Under,” by Colin Hay; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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377 - Charles Eisenstein (Author/Philosopher)

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Charles is a public intellectual, speaker, and the author of five books, including Climate: A New Story, Sacred Economics, and The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Don’t You Miss Me,” by Seamus Og; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

376 - On the Big Island with Kyle Thiermann and Simon Rex

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We recorded this one during a pig hunting trip. Our conversation ranges far and wide, to put it mildly. Check out Simon's podcast, Nervous Rex, and The Kyle Thiermann Show.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Waiting for My Real Life to Begin,” by Colin Hay; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

375 - Chris Paine (Filmmaker/Environmentalist)

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Chris Paine is an American filmmaker and environmental activist. His notable works as director include the documentaries Who Killed the Electric Car? Revenge of the Electric Car and Do You Trust This Computer? Paine received a nomination for the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Documentary Screenplay for Who Killed the Electric Car?

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Fences,” by Chris Frisina; "Canzoni d'Amore," by Neil Sorsby; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

374 - Daniele Bolelli (Badass Historian)

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Daniele Bolelli is a writer, martial artist, university professor, and podcaster. He was born in Italy and currently lives in Los Angeles.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “If 6 was 9,” by Axiom Funk; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

373 - James Ostrer (Artist/Lunatic)

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James Ostrer has been known to dress himself in the flayed flesh of pigs and take self-portraits as a commentary on, what? How we're all encased in the suffering of other animals? How humans are both sacred and just meat? How "art" is both absurd and utterly serious? I don't know, but James's work is never boring or pretentious, always provocative and thoughtful.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Water from the Sky,” by Elena B. Williams; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

Instagram: @jamesostrer

Instagram: @jamesostrer

372 - ROMA 32

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In which I call out Gandhi, question the narrative of a recent Hollywood sex scandal, share some thoughts on hunting, and discuss my fear of becoming a douchebag guru.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Desert Land,” by Elena B. Williams; “El Jardin,” by Hermanos Guitierrez; “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress,” by Charlie Haden and Pat Metheny; “Rio Amazonas,” by Øystein Sevåg.

369 - Shane Heath (Mudslinger)

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Shane wasn’t mad at coffee, he was disappointed. He was sold the dream that coffee would allow him to do more and do it faster. But, he noticed that he was reliant on it just to get to baseline. The jitters, the anxiety, shitty sleep. He loved the ritual, but questioned whether it was helping or hindering his mental and physical performance. So he created Mud.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “When We Grew Older,” by Chris Vince; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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368 - Philip van Wyck (Missionary/Sea Gypsies)

Philip is a South African Christian missionary working with the Moken people (aka Sea Gypsies) on the island of Ko Phayam, in Thailand. When the tsunami in 2004 destroyed their boats, they were forced to live on land. Philip is trying to help them make the transition to a new way of life. He sees his role as striving to be the embodiment of God's love, not as trying to convince anyone to adopt his particular beliefs.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Life Upside Down,” by Brett Newski; “Smoke Alarm,” by Carsie Blanton.

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367 - ROMA 31

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Are vaccines dangerous? Is meat important? If so, why? Does love always have to hurt? What are the dangers of humility? Can people and animals sense your vibe when you're tripping? These and other pressing issues are featured in yet another ROMA episode.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Humans From Earth,” by T-Bone Burnett; “Billie Jean,” covered by Chris Cornell; “El Mar,” by Hermanos Gutierrez; “Friends are Lost,” by Mike Howe.

366 - Carsie Blanton (Singer/Songwriter/Troublemaker)

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Nobody writes songs like Carsie. They come from straight from her heart, her head, or her ... shall we say, genital chakra. No filters. No shame. No prepackaged commercial nonsense. She's unabashedly political, sexual, and animal. She's one of my favorite Homo sapiens.

The essay I mention by Paul Graham is here.

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Music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; “Jacket” and "To Be Known” by Carsie Blanton.

Kyle's episode with Brenden Ruh of SC Medicinals.